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swatkat ([personal profile] swatkat) wrote2008-12-11 09:29 am
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hallelujah

You already know what I'm going to say.


joy to the world:

I've had a strange relationship with the baby arc in my fannish life (in this fandom, that is to say). It was what brought me out of lurkerdom into full-fledged fannish participation as I posted a longish meta exploring Cuddy's possible motives in [livejournal.com profile] house_cuddy, back when the first spoilers about 'Forever'/'Who's Your Daddy?' came out. I didn't want a television baby, but if that was what she wanted, I was happy. And then a lot of things happened and the show seemed determined not to have any nice thing happen to Cuddy, EVER, and seriously, I could not have wanted this more. I don't care if House and Cuddy never kiss again—please, Shore, let her keep the baby. The novelty will wear down and she'll find out that it's hard to raise a child and she'll have other trauma in her life, I'm sure—but let her keep this baby. Because if there's one thing Cuddy has been consistent about as a character on this show is in her resilience. This is one of the things [livejournal.com profile] hihoplastic pointed out to me in a discussion once—Cuddy always bounces back. Let me cite two instances from this season: 'Joy', and devastation, and the next episode she's awesome and cool as though all is fine in her world; the previous episode and the embarrassment and disappointment, and here she is, being this awesome mentorly person to the poor child and a good doctor and not rising to House's bait and not giving up on herself… I'm not being very coherent here, am I? But bear with me, it's just that I'm very happy, and it's the last part that's just so incredible—she put herself out there, again, after the disappointment of the loss of the child and after the embarrassment of harbouring notions about House, and she did not give up on herself, like she always does:

Cuddy: See, that's not a good answer. Remember when you asked me if I'd had any kids? I don't. I don't know, maybe it has nothing to do with it, but I was good at school, good at work—lousy at life. I screwed up every relationship I ever had. I thought, why would I wanna bring a child into this? But then I got older, and…


She knows she's lousy at life, and she has a history of giving up on herself and that she's hardly as well put together as she likes to think she is, but she did it nonetheless. She went there and she's willing to fall flat again, and if that doesn't deserve a little reward I don't know what does. Please, Shore, please let her keep the baby.


can't always get what you want:


And again, this episode brought back why I ship and don't ship House/Cuddy: I ship because they're hot and awesome; I don't ship because it's not just the romance I'm interested in—their relationship is weird, and I want it all, I love every bit of bit. And so even if the House/Cuddy thing doesn't get thingier, I don't care—House just gave her a Look of Love and walked away, accepting that he's not number one in her life at this moment (although, I'm sure he'll start throwing tantrums in the near future). And that's such a reversal from the last time she was doing this thing, and we know how much it costs House to say the 'Merry Christmas'. My heart broke a little bit for him in that scene even though I mostly wanted to say 'Nyah, House, she gave you a chance, and you blew it and now you're only reduced to longing glances and baits that won't work because she's not gonna come play in your office again, she just graduated and left you behind.'



House is (*gasp*) actually being happy for her for a change. Never thought I'd see this day.



Etc.:

* Hello, Foreteen. I'm glad I predicted you right. That's right, Foreman, now she'll show you how to be less boring while you help her with your stable and calming presence. Man, I cannot wait for Chase and Cameron to find out and NEEDLE HIM MERCILESSLY. I cannot wait for Taub to find out and NEEDLE HER MERCILESSLY. *g*

* House/Foreman/Kutner/Cuddy—doctors and empathy.

* Clinic patients FTW!

* Wilson and Irene Adler reference—just SO AWESOME. He just gets awesomer with every passing day, doesn't he?

* The lack of social workers and protocol… did not surprise (or particularly bother) me. Because this show is ALL ABOUT 'law', you see. And 'realism.' *shakes head*

* Kutner's apology was a bit cheesy, but aww-inducing.

* LE, what have you done to Cuddy's hair? I don't care what you do with yours, just fix hers, please.

* Is it just me or has RSL has become blindingly beautiful of late? I have a hard time concentrating on his scenes these days.

* TAUB! I love that the D2 don't respect House at all. They really did manage to needle him pretty well, didn't they? It's a good thing that their dynamic is so different than what House had with their Ducklings.

* 'She could be making you think about another helpless, chubby little girl you recently met.'
'You are NOT really making this about the baby I tried to adopt.'



* The D2's FACES in the aforementioned scene! And every time House tried to bait Cuddy in front of them!

* Nancy Drew Cuddy!

[identity profile] shutterbug-12.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
The way I feel about the baby arc at this point is very...*handwavy* I got to a point where I'd rather Cuddy get a baby than House end up in a real relationship, so if that's the way it has to happen (or not happen), then fine. I don't really have strong feelings about it like some do. Eh. I wouldn't mind if Cuddy kept this baby for the rest of the series, though, as long as we saw very little of the baby and, when it was relevant, more of how the child is affecting Cuddy. But, the way I see it, if it doesn't come around to affect or relate to House, then it really doesn't belong on the screen. I'm intrigued by the baby arc/thing and am not really committing myself to much of an opinion on it right now, I guess. Although, I do know that I'll be annoyed if, once Cuddy has the baby for a while, she 'realizes' that she's not ready for motherhood and voluntarily gives up the baby. That would be really disappointing, and would strike me as something Cuddy wouldn't do. I'd think her determination would really kick in and she would make it work, but, then again, she'd put the child's welfare first and if she honestly felt she couldn't provide for her, then she would do what was best for it. But, still. I hope they don't go that route. =\

I think, at the end, House's reaction was appropriate. I'll get to the 'wanting her to be happy' part in second, but I think it was partly that the last episode (or more, but I'm too lazy to go back and check) had House seeming relatively wary of taking things further with her in a serious way, and he seemed to be testing her, considering her responses, gathering 'evidence' about whether or not an attempt to take another step with her would result in disaster. And I think that even though there was some bittersweetness to it all (this baby thing, that is), this was partly a relief for him. House doesn't think that he--he himself, all by himself--can make anyone happy, and a baby would stand a much better chance at making her happy than he would. This was his 'out'. It took the pressure off of him to try to be something he couldn't be for her, even though it meant taking a backseat (Cuddy really only had eyes for that baby in that last scene of theirs) for the moment, until he clamors his way up into the front seat again somehow. I don't imagine much pining after this, really. Harassing, yes. Pining, probably not.

I think House has always wanted the important people in his life to be happy, but I also think a part of him doesn't necessarily believe it's possible. So he's careful and wary, and suspicious when people strive for happiness, because I think, while he's still concerned about himself and how their happiness will affect him, he doesn't want those people to crash and burn. I saw this moment with Cuddy a lot like the one he had with Wilson last season, when he told Wilson that he was all right with his relationship with Amber. (Of course, then he goes and still tries to interfere and test boundaries, and determine where he stands in Wilson's life, and I don't doubt he'll do it with Cuddy and this baby, too.) But anyway, I don't think it stops him from wanting happiness for them. And, I wish I wouldn't let fandom affect how much I appreciate House and Cuddy, because I really do, even if I see no real 'romance'. As for Cuddy, I really do hope she's 'graduated', because she deserves so, so much better than what House can realistically give her, and perhaps her example of 'graduating' can possibly teach House a thing or two.
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[identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY AND HAVE THE BABY OKAY? I AM VERY TINHATTY ABOUT THIS, SORRY, BUT I'M TIRED OF THREE SEASONS WORTH OF HER WANTING AND NOT GETTING ANY OF THE THINGS SHE WANTS AND DESERVES AND LIFE IS NOT THAT BLEAK, EVEN IN THE HOUSEVERSE AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE SOME NICE THINGS TO HOLD ON TO.

Ahem.

You see how I feel about this, don't you? *g*

I suspect there might be some pining, though, especially on House's part even though he's been given an out and he's relieved. Because I don't think he knows Cuddy saw him with the hooker, which is why he seemed a bit surprised by her refusal to play in this episode. And while I don't see a 'romance' between them right now, I do see the possibility of a romance (it's a bad word for what might develop between them if they were to have sex and have a 'relationship', but their isn't any that fits), unlike you, and I felt that both House and Cuddy saw it too in the previous episode, which is why they were so terrified about it (but Cuddy at least put the ball in his court; House is just a great big coward). Furthermore, I also see an element of truth in what Wilson said - he *does* see her as the last resort of sorts, and if she won't play who will?

But anyway, I don't think it stops him from wanting happiness for them.

He wants them to be happy. And he wants them with him. And he doesn't believe that the two can be mutually inclusive. Hence the fear and cautiousness.

[identity profile] shutterbug-12.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think you were really unclear. You might need to run that by me again, possibly with different words. And a bigger font size. ;)

Meh. I...can't see a relationship happening for either of them, with each other or someone else, because of all their separate issues, their different life goals. Well, I can't disagree that Cuddy would be a last resort, though, because House simply knows no other available women, and it's not like he goes out and plays the field. He has no one else in his circle that would even be a possibility at the moment, but I could never see them being about romance. You know those people who have "back-ups"? If neither of us finds anyone by the time we're forty, then we should keep each other company, because we're friends and like each other, and the sex would be good, so...Those kinds of things. If House and Cuddy ever did get together, I kind of see it as that being a motivation. Kind of like, "All right, so we're losers and can't find anyone else. What do you say we be less alone and just shack up?" Either way, since I ship House/Vicodin, really, (or platonic OT3!) I'd be really disappointed if he actually "ended up" with anyone. I'd be really disappointed in the show. =\
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[identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
No, let me make myself clear, I don't see a relationship happening in canon. The show is not the House/Cuddy show, and it simply does not have the scope to explore a relationship that would be as insane as theirs, without killing the show completely. Canon does not see either House or Cuddy being capable of a relationship as of now, and I think it's going to continue being that way, with twinges of wistfulness and the usual banter. But I did see the past few episodes having House and Cuddy considering a 'what if...?', before they finally move away in this one. *That's* what I mean when I say I saw a possibility of a 'romance'. A romance is not the right word for it, I guess, because of the connotations that it has - your back-up theory makes more sense, and I suspect, if it ever happens in canon, that's how it will be.
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[identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com 2008-12-12 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Also, the only way House/Cuddy will actually work in canon? Past Time (http://ijemanja.livejournal.com/46867.html) by [livejournal.com profile] ijemanja.