Oh, fuck me. I just lost my entire post...*grumble*
that Elphaba "returns" through Liir Through Liir? I rather think he was merely a catalyst for the propagation of her legacy - and his *characterization* served to put Elphaba "first", because he was such an indecisive - and undefined - person. Not to mention the incessant comparisons.
But the most important aspect of SoaW - the perpetuation of Elphaba's ideas - ties back to what I felt was inedequately incomplete in Wicked, namely the scope of Elphie's reputation throughout Oz. It doesn't bother me that much because I *wanted* her to acquire more importance/power in Wicked, but it still rings somewhat incomplete. When you think of it, Nessa was responsible for the secession of Munchkinland, and then became a dictator adept at sorcery. Elphaba wasn't known for her activist days in the Emerald City, since she never accomplished anything and stayed under the radar, until she went to settle at Kiamo Ko. I comprehend her importance to the Animal community - or rather, what was left of it - but how could that (or merely news of her association) have gotten out to the citizens of Oz? Is her reputation based solely on her association to Nessa, her reclusiveness and *rumors*? I wonder if the Wizard did anything to enhance this...
I need to reread the prologue.
Oh, the thread on the Goddess of Gifts and Dorothy is extremely interesting. I had forgotten about what Boq found as well...and eep! Going through SaoW, there's a chapter called Kumbricia's Cradle! And I don't want to spoil you, but it fits with the supposed parallels between characters/mythic figures and/or reincarnations in Maguire's mythos.
I find Yackle endlessly fascinating. Even squee-inducing! And no, she doesn't explain anything new in SoaW, although she's quite present. However, the only version of her we see in the old maunt at Saint Glinda's. She at one point says to the maunts she has been "placed on the sidelines of her life, as a witness" "a guardian twitch" (whuh?) Kumbrica isn't mentioned in SoaW much, compared to Wicked. Nor are Lurlina/Saint Aelphaba and other legends of Ozian paganism. The Time Dragon and the dwarf were sorely missed, because I found them endlessly fascinating as well. *g*
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Date: 2006-06-10 09:36 pm (UTC)that Elphaba "returns" through Liir
Through Liir? I rather think he was merely a catalyst for the propagation of her legacy - and his *characterization* served to put Elphaba "first", because he was such an indecisive - and undefined - person. Not to mention the incessant comparisons.
But the most important aspect of SoaW - the perpetuation of Elphaba's ideas - ties back to what I felt was inedequately incomplete in Wicked, namely the scope of Elphie's reputation throughout Oz. It doesn't bother me that much because I *wanted* her to acquire more importance/power in Wicked, but it still rings somewhat incomplete. When you think of it, Nessa was responsible for the secession of Munchkinland, and then became a dictator adept at sorcery. Elphaba wasn't known for her activist days in the Emerald City, since she never accomplished anything and stayed under the radar, until she went to settle at Kiamo Ko. I comprehend her importance to the Animal community - or rather, what was left of it - but how could that (or merely news of her association) have gotten out to the citizens of Oz? Is her reputation based solely on her association to Nessa, her reclusiveness and *rumors*? I wonder if the Wizard did anything to enhance this...
I need to reread the prologue.
Oh, the thread on the Goddess of Gifts and Dorothy is extremely interesting. I had forgotten about what Boq found as well...and eep! Going through SaoW, there's a chapter called Kumbricia's Cradle! And I don't want to spoil you, but it fits with the supposed parallels between characters/mythic figures and/or reincarnations in Maguire's mythos.
I find Yackle endlessly fascinating. Even squee-inducing! And no, she doesn't explain anything new in SoaW, although she's quite present. However, the only version of her we see in the old maunt at Saint Glinda's. She at one point says to the maunts she has been "placed on the sidelines of her life, as a witness" "a guardian twitch" (whuh?)
Kumbrica isn't mentioned in SoaW much, compared to Wicked. Nor are Lurlina/Saint Aelphaba and other legends of Ozian paganism. The Time Dragon and the dwarf were sorely missed, because I found them endlessly fascinating as well. *g*