the obvious
Nov. 13th, 2008 09:43 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
swatkatI did a little 'Hallelujah!' dance. It wasn't pretty, but it certainly was appropriate. One might say the occasion demanded it.
we didn't deny the obvious (but we didn't entirely accept it either):
There's that scene at the end of 'Honeymoon', where House tries to take a steady step without his cane: Stacy has gone back with Mark, Mick Jagger is singing in the background and House takes a step forward, and doubles over. That scene sealed my 'House is my darling w00bie asshat and I don't care what anyone else says' sentiments, and I can never watch that scene without cringing. Like our POTW here, House has always been what he is—bitter and misanthropic; miserable (conversation with POTW in 'Not Cancer'—it's not just her eye, and it's not just his leg)—but with Stacy, at least, he wanted once in a while to go out, face the world (again, conversation with Lucas in 'Not Cancer'—a friend is someone who allows you not to sit in the room by yourself). But here's the thing about this season—dying has changed everything (Amber, his father); House is still a bitter misanthrope, but the world is not as ugly as he's always claimed it is:
'And now… things will be… beautiful?'
'Things will be what they are.'
Allow me to quote myself from my post-'Not Cancer' post: "I squeed, because of course I had a flashback to 'Humpty Dumpty' and the 'you see things as they are and you see things as they should be; you don't see the giant gaping chasm between' speech, and the difference here is in House's admission that the world is not as ugly as he's always claimed it is. That's why he got off the bus." The last scene of this episode gave me flashbacks of that scene in 'Honeymoon' (he can't get what he wants; he can't have his leg—a chance at a happier life with Stacy—back), with a difference: he still won't try to get what he needs because he's a just a big scaredy cat, like we've always known, but at least he walked out of his house and went there. He WENT there. I cannot begin to tell you how ridiculously proud I have been of House this season (wait, I already have—in every frakking post-episode post *g*), because for once in his life he has been holding true to what he told Amber in that bus: that he doesn't want to be miserable, that he doesn't want to be lonely, that he doesn't want Wilson to hate him. And he has been reaching out to people, and that's so incredibly awesome, coming from Dr. Greg 'I'm better off alone' House.
we said hello to it each morning in the foyer:
And, of course, there's the fact that he reached out to Cuddy (reached out so far, in fact, that his tongue fell into her mouth), and I cannot begin to tell you how happy that makes me, because I love them SO MUCH and I've waited for this since… Season 2. 'Humpty Dumpty'. When House tried to comfort her in his oblique backhanded way and I nearly fell out of my chair in joy, screaming, 'Yess! I knew it! They care about each other and have a history and are FRIENDS!' I don't care if House and Cuddy never kiss again, because Cuddy actually called him a 'friend' in this episode. When have they ever admitted out loud that they're friends?
It goes without saying that I loved Cuddy in this episode, cool and in control and all grown-up (UNLIKE some other people she kissed the previous night) and snarky to the boot, but what I loved even more? Was how she was completely in control of herself the night after she lost the one thing she so desperately wanted, the one thing she thought would make her life 'perfect'. No, you cannot convince me that she really was COMPLETELY HEALED by House's magic tongue, and this has nothing to do with how hard Cuddy tries to convince herself that she is a sane and rational and healthy being. You can't. What is she doing all throughout this episode? Rationalizing. Doing the adult thing. Not thinking about kissing House at all, no way (what do you mean she just went into a one minute monologue about why she isn't thinking about it? she's not in denial!). What is she doing at the end of this episode? Working. AT HOME. At that ungodly hour. Because House is right and she's given up, and she's compensating again with the only thing that works for her, the only thing that has never failed her: her work. She will be more careful with her tongue in the future. She'll lock herself up in her house and her office and say that she's happy. Which, of course, does not answer the question from the previous episode: what does she need from House?
I'm seeing a lot of comparisons between House/Stacy and House/Cuddy in fandom after the previous episode, and I don't think it quite works that way, because what House had with Stacy was different. And Stacy was able to walk away—and as of now, after being pushed away by House the second time, stay away. The more obvious comparison for House/Cuddy, to me, is with House/Wilson, because Cuddy, like Wilson, can't (won't) walk away. And there's a co-dependence there that's not always very obvious, because Cuddy and House do not share any of the clear-cut 'best friends' things that House and Wilson do. They don't hang out together, they don't feel the need to blab their secrets to each other, and yet, when it comes to something like adopting a child, she desperately wants his approval ('Are… you gonna congratulate me?' and her FACE when it is clear that he won't). Cuddy keeps herself very well together, and it's only in episodes like 5.06 does her dependence on House become very obvious. He's her friend, and while he may be the long-distance runner of neediness, she isn't very far behind, either: that's one of the reasons why she can't, like Wilson, walk away and stay away. It's kind of pathetic, really, and I ♥ it.
we patted its little head as it made a mess in the backyard:
Meanwhile, how awesome were Wilson and Cuddy in this episode? Every sentence was a gem, and that little kiss in the end, I just… *flails* I love their grown-up friendship. I've wanted them to be better friends since, oh, the end of S2, and I'm so happy that it's grown into THIS, this thing where they can have a mature conversation about House, where she can PWN his pathetic attempt at being manipulative and then kiss him on his cheek.
What blew me away about the House/Wilson/Cuddy dynamics in this episode, however, was Wilson's vehemence about the need to grab at any opportunity to be happy. There's something more to their usual highschool OT3ness of 'Act Your Age', and that's because Amber's death has changed everything. House kissed Cuddy and he can't ignore it, can't take it back, and Wilson—loss has made him more aware of the need to grab at happiness when it comes your way, more vehement about it. That's why he wouldn't stay away—that, and the fact that there is zero concept of personal boundaries when it comes to the three of them. And yes, it is vicarious living—there's a reason why we call these people co-dependent and why the only kind of relationship that will work for House in canon is a platonic version of the OT3.
Meanwhile, more pining, please.
Not that I will complain if House and Cuddy try something and then crash and burn…
Etc:
* 'And then we don't speak for two months' – Cuddy clearly referred to House and Wilson's break-up here. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ♥
* Meanwhile, Cameron was AWESOME in this episode. It's good to see her back, being all grown-up—there's a clear hierarchy between the Ducklings and the D2 (as there should be), and I loved that at play in the various scenes of the episode. I loved that she invoked the poor dead husband AND the infarction AND was firm before insecure!Chase while acknowledging that she still has commitment issues. But if Cameron has commitment issues, Chase has trust issues, and I'm glad he FINALLY spoke about it after one and a half years. Foreman had little to do in the episode, but aww, it was wonderful to see him fall in step with Cameron again, and, oh, that 'you know him' that Cameron told Foreman in the differential scene! ♥
* There's still some unresolved House and Chase issues that need addressing, though.
* Wilson throwing House out is a continuation of his determination not to be an enabler after a certain point. THAT'S how it's supposed to work, and not by staying away from the person who means the world to him, and I'm glad Wilson has realised that.
* Did I mention the part where I loved Cuddy in this episode?
* And am I the only person noticing all the touching that Wilson did to House in this episode?
* AND DID YOU GUYS NOTICE THE FAKE ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND OF WILSON'S FAKE PROPOSAL SCENE? DID YOU? AND CUDDY'S FAKE 'TOUCHED' FACE, AND HER FAKE 'RROAAR' FACE… AND THE GENUINE PECK, OF COURSE. GOD I LOVE THESE PEOPLE. ♥♥♥
* 'Never leaned so far that my tongue fell into their mouth.'
* 'I don't think of House that way. I never have.' And then she fidgeted with her ear-ring, which is classic defensive Cuddy. *g*
* 'You know exactly how that would go. It would start off exciting, we'd get caught up in the novelty and the hostility and the forbidden-ness, and then we'd realise that the flirty hostility is just hostility and his inability to open up is no longer exciting it's just… frustrating… and then it's the inevitable blow-up and the recriminations and we don't talk for two months…'
'Yeah, well certainly proves that you've never thought about House that way.'
'I get your point. I will be more careful with my tongue in the future.'
And I love that Wilson played the optimist in this scene here, since Cuddy has lost much of her optimism since 'Humpty Dumpty'. I love that he's there to remind her of that.
we didn't deny the obvious (but we didn't entirely accept it either):
There's that scene at the end of 'Honeymoon', where House tries to take a steady step without his cane: Stacy has gone back with Mark, Mick Jagger is singing in the background and House takes a step forward, and doubles over. That scene sealed my 'House is my darling w00bie asshat and I don't care what anyone else says' sentiments, and I can never watch that scene without cringing. Like our POTW here, House has always been what he is—bitter and misanthropic; miserable (conversation with POTW in 'Not Cancer'—it's not just her eye, and it's not just his leg)—but with Stacy, at least, he wanted once in a while to go out, face the world (again, conversation with Lucas in 'Not Cancer'—a friend is someone who allows you not to sit in the room by yourself). But here's the thing about this season—dying has changed everything (Amber, his father); House is still a bitter misanthrope, but the world is not as ugly as he's always claimed it is:
'And now… things will be… beautiful?'
'Things will be what they are.'
Allow me to quote myself from my post-'Not Cancer' post: "I squeed, because of course I had a flashback to 'Humpty Dumpty' and the 'you see things as they are and you see things as they should be; you don't see the giant gaping chasm between' speech, and the difference here is in House's admission that the world is not as ugly as he's always claimed it is. That's why he got off the bus." The last scene of this episode gave me flashbacks of that scene in 'Honeymoon' (he can't get what he wants; he can't have his leg—a chance at a happier life with Stacy—back), with a difference: he still won't try to get what he needs because he's a just a big scaredy cat, like we've always known, but at least he walked out of his house and went there. He WENT there. I cannot begin to tell you how ridiculously proud I have been of House this season (wait, I already have—in every frakking post-episode post *g*), because for once in his life he has been holding true to what he told Amber in that bus: that he doesn't want to be miserable, that he doesn't want to be lonely, that he doesn't want Wilson to hate him. And he has been reaching out to people, and that's so incredibly awesome, coming from Dr. Greg 'I'm better off alone' House.
we said hello to it each morning in the foyer:
And, of course, there's the fact that he reached out to Cuddy (reached out so far, in fact, that his tongue fell into her mouth), and I cannot begin to tell you how happy that makes me, because I love them SO MUCH and I've waited for this since… Season 2. 'Humpty Dumpty'. When House tried to comfort her in his oblique backhanded way and I nearly fell out of my chair in joy, screaming, 'Yess! I knew it! They care about each other and have a history and are FRIENDS!' I don't care if House and Cuddy never kiss again, because Cuddy actually called him a 'friend' in this episode. When have they ever admitted out loud that they're friends?
It goes without saying that I loved Cuddy in this episode, cool and in control and all grown-up (UNLIKE some other people she kissed the previous night) and snarky to the boot, but what I loved even more? Was how she was completely in control of herself the night after she lost the one thing she so desperately wanted, the one thing she thought would make her life 'perfect'. No, you cannot convince me that she really was COMPLETELY HEALED by House's magic tongue, and this has nothing to do with how hard Cuddy tries to convince herself that she is a sane and rational and healthy being. You can't. What is she doing all throughout this episode? Rationalizing. Doing the adult thing. Not thinking about kissing House at all, no way (what do you mean she just went into a one minute monologue about why she isn't thinking about it? she's not in denial!). What is she doing at the end of this episode? Working. AT HOME. At that ungodly hour. Because House is right and she's given up, and she's compensating again with the only thing that works for her, the only thing that has never failed her: her work. She will be more careful with her tongue in the future. She'll lock herself up in her house and her office and say that she's happy. Which, of course, does not answer the question from the previous episode: what does she need from House?
I'm seeing a lot of comparisons between House/Stacy and House/Cuddy in fandom after the previous episode, and I don't think it quite works that way, because what House had with Stacy was different. And Stacy was able to walk away—and as of now, after being pushed away by House the second time, stay away. The more obvious comparison for House/Cuddy, to me, is with House/Wilson, because Cuddy, like Wilson, can't (won't) walk away. And there's a co-dependence there that's not always very obvious, because Cuddy and House do not share any of the clear-cut 'best friends' things that House and Wilson do. They don't hang out together, they don't feel the need to blab their secrets to each other, and yet, when it comes to something like adopting a child, she desperately wants his approval ('Are… you gonna congratulate me?' and her FACE when it is clear that he won't). Cuddy keeps herself very well together, and it's only in episodes like 5.06 does her dependence on House become very obvious. He's her friend, and while he may be the long-distance runner of neediness, she isn't very far behind, either: that's one of the reasons why she can't, like Wilson, walk away and stay away. It's kind of pathetic, really, and I ♥ it.
we patted its little head as it made a mess in the backyard:
Meanwhile, how awesome were Wilson and Cuddy in this episode? Every sentence was a gem, and that little kiss in the end, I just… *flails* I love their grown-up friendship. I've wanted them to be better friends since, oh, the end of S2, and I'm so happy that it's grown into THIS, this thing where they can have a mature conversation about House, where she can PWN his pathetic attempt at being manipulative and then kiss him on his cheek.
What blew me away about the House/Wilson/Cuddy dynamics in this episode, however, was Wilson's vehemence about the need to grab at any opportunity to be happy. There's something more to their usual highschool OT3ness of 'Act Your Age', and that's because Amber's death has changed everything. House kissed Cuddy and he can't ignore it, can't take it back, and Wilson—loss has made him more aware of the need to grab at happiness when it comes your way, more vehement about it. That's why he wouldn't stay away—that, and the fact that there is zero concept of personal boundaries when it comes to the three of them. And yes, it is vicarious living—there's a reason why we call these people co-dependent and why the only kind of relationship that will work for House in canon is a platonic version of the OT3.
Meanwhile, more pining, please.
Not that I will complain if House and Cuddy try something and then crash and burn…
Etc:
* 'And then we don't speak for two months' – Cuddy clearly referred to House and Wilson's break-up here. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ♥
* Meanwhile, Cameron was AWESOME in this episode. It's good to see her back, being all grown-up—there's a clear hierarchy between the Ducklings and the D2 (as there should be), and I loved that at play in the various scenes of the episode. I loved that she invoked the poor dead husband AND the infarction AND was firm before insecure!Chase while acknowledging that she still has commitment issues. But if Cameron has commitment issues, Chase has trust issues, and I'm glad he FINALLY spoke about it after one and a half years. Foreman had little to do in the episode, but aww, it was wonderful to see him fall in step with Cameron again, and, oh, that 'you know him' that Cameron told Foreman in the differential scene! ♥
* There's still some unresolved House and Chase issues that need addressing, though.
* Wilson throwing House out is a continuation of his determination not to be an enabler after a certain point. THAT'S how it's supposed to work, and not by staying away from the person who means the world to him, and I'm glad Wilson has realised that.
* Did I mention the part where I loved Cuddy in this episode?
* And am I the only person noticing all the touching that Wilson did to House in this episode?
* AND DID YOU GUYS NOTICE THE FAKE ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND OF WILSON'S FAKE PROPOSAL SCENE? DID YOU? AND CUDDY'S FAKE 'TOUCHED' FACE, AND HER FAKE 'RROAAR' FACE… AND THE GENUINE PECK, OF COURSE. GOD I LOVE THESE PEOPLE. ♥♥♥
* 'Never leaned so far that my tongue fell into their mouth.'
* 'I don't think of House that way. I never have.' And then she fidgeted with her ear-ring, which is classic defensive Cuddy. *g*
* 'You know exactly how that would go. It would start off exciting, we'd get caught up in the novelty and the hostility and the forbidden-ness, and then we'd realise that the flirty hostility is just hostility and his inability to open up is no longer exciting it's just… frustrating… and then it's the inevitable blow-up and the recriminations and we don't talk for two months…'
'Yeah, well certainly proves that you've never thought about House that way.'
'I get your point. I will be more careful with my tongue in the future.'
And I love that Wilson played the optimist in this scene here, since Cuddy has lost much of her optimism since 'Humpty Dumpty'. I love that he's there to remind her of that.
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Date: 2008-11-13 05:34 am (UTC)The House/Wilson/Cuddy dynamic was amazing this episode, and it was great to see how Cuddy and Wilson are alone together. Especially since we know they've been conspiring against House together since season one.
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Date: 2008-11-13 07:47 am (UTC)Absolutely. I LOVE that they've come this far together.
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Date: 2008-11-13 06:05 am (UTC)Yes!! When she did that? It was Cuddy for: I'm thinking about that time House and I had sex and it was totally awesome. Such an obvious tell. Also, it's interesting that the one night stand didn't come up, and I think it must be because Wilson doesn't know about it, and neither Cuddy nor House wants him to know, and it makes me think it must have been even more seedy and wrong than I had previously imagined.
I just, I love your brain. You have the best thinky thoughts about this show. Yes to basically everything concerning the OT3, and each of their special, individual dysfunctions. *hugs them and you and your brain*
There's still some unresolved House and Chase issues that need addressing, though.
Oh hell yes. Is Chase going to have an episode this season? Or does this count as his episode? D:
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Date: 2008-11-13 06:31 am (UTC)Yes. Hee. So true! She's thinking of him that way right now. Naked.
and it makes me think it must have been even more seedy and wrong than I had previously imagined.
*DIES*
I WANT TO KNOW HOW THIS HAPPENED. I WANTS! I WANT IT NAO!
And of course Wilson doesn't know, because he wouldn't have left them alone if he did. He so lives vicariously through House, just like Cuddy does (but to a greater degree, I think).
Oh hell yes. Is Chase going to have an episode this season? Or does this count as his episode? D:
I have no idea. I know only little about spoilers, and I think I heard about more appearances from Chase and Cameron, but there's nothing definite that I know. But there are Issues! Because Chase is still in love with House, and still wants House to pet him and appreciate him. And he said he would do any stupid risky thing from House, and then stayed away from this one because CAMERON was involved and clearly House loves Cameron more than he loves him...
I want Chase&Cameron sibling rivalry fic.
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:23 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-11-14 04:39 am (UTC)Poor Chase, it really is about love, isn't it? Because House fired him just like that and in the eyes of a child-of-an-addict with massive trust issues, that was such a betrayal. If you compare the way Chase acts now towards House with that scene in... I think the first episode with his father? Where he explains why he gave up on the idea of loving his father... Yeah. Poor Chase. And yet he still manages to be a pretty good boyfriend. Kind of passive aggressive, but still honest and accepting and willing to try and make things work with Cameron. In conclusion: I WANT MORE CHASE.
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Date: 2008-11-14 09:46 am (UTC)I'm sure he's secretly very very jealous of House loving Cameron more than him, which is manifested in his 'you're still in love with House' accusations. He just wants House to love him, poor dear.
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Date: 2008-11-13 06:06 am (UTC)I would love to see more conversations between Wilson and Cuddy. They don't even need to be about House. That kiss was adorable, and I love seeing more of their friendship.
the only kind of relationship that will work for House in canon is a platonic version of the OT3. That is my dream for them. Seriously. If the series ends with just the three of them co-dependently being friends with no boundaries, I will love it. Love. It.
And, oh man, Cameron was SO AWESOME. I loved all of her scenes. And if bringing her back more often means we get more ethical dilemmas, BRING HER BACK MORE, PLEASE, OKAY?
Is fidgeting like that a tell of Cuddy's? If so...*makes a note for future fics*
And, I love, LOVE, that Cuddy was actually thinking with her head. Rationalizations or not, she's trying to be SMART about this whole thing, and my respect got bumped up for her.
I loved that House couldn't knock on her door. It really showed consistency with his character, all the way back, as you said, to Honeymoon. He knows he's rationalizing with himself, and he knows he wants some happiness, and he knows he wants to snatch back that part of his life when he was in a relationship and things were good, but he can't. I love it. I think (and hope) he'll always be a little too cowardly to take enough steps to where he wants to go.
Random cool fact: House's keys were on a Sherlock Holmes book in his apartment. I think that is so cool. Hee.
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Date: 2008-11-13 07:32 am (UTC)Yes! I loved the ethical dilemma. Because Cameron has changed, but she's not changed that much. If she hadn't woken the patient up, it wouldn't have been Cameron. *g*
Is fidgeting like that a tell of Cuddy's? If so...*makes a note for future fics*
The instance that leaps to my mind is 'Humpty Dumpty', House, Stacy and Cuddy in Cuddy's office at the end. Fidgeting with her pearl necklace.
Random cool fact: House's keys were on a Sherlock Holmes book in his apartment. I think that is so cool. Hee.
Oh, wow! I did not see that.
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:22 am (UTC)Ah, yes, the necklace. Forgot about that. If I ever need a Cuddy character-checker, mind if I come to you?
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:44 am (UTC)Exactly. And I do hope they explore more ethical issues with her, because that's one of the hallmarks of the show as far as I'm concerned.
And re. the character-checker: of course, happy to be of service! *g*
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Date: 2008-11-13 09:50 am (UTC)And thank you! I don't have any immediate Cuddy-fics on my to-do list for the next couple weeks. But my Big Bang fic will see appearances by her, so I may pick your brain when that time comes. =D
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Date: 2008-11-13 11:37 am (UTC)I'm here whenever you need it. *g*
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Date: 2008-11-13 07:45 am (UTC)Hmm, yes, I'd agree. She walked away and stayed away, and that alone showed her emotional health. House *bullied* her into falling back in, and then pushed her away again, and I like to think she has found some semblance of happiness with Mark even if House will always be her One.
With Cuddy, I think you're right. She's very dependent of House, his support, and approval, and she doesn't dismiss House because she can't. Cuddy also has issues similar to House in regards to avoiding pain (this really was the reasoning she gave when she spoke to Wilson about how a relationship with House would go, and why it was a bad idea).
Yes to all of it. 'You think you can avoid pain.' Over the past few seasons, she's become more entangled with House than ever. It's somewhat like Wilson this season and Foreman in S4 - they walked away. And then walked right back in again because they can't stay away.
The way Cuddy and Wilson function are much more similar as well, as you've pointed out.
Which is why they always hatch up their harebrained plans to get House under control together.
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:18 am (UTC)The avoidance of pain issue. This is the trait that I will be hard pressed to believe will ever change in House, and in the other characters. Not only is it instinctive for many people (masochists not included), but this seems to be one of the guiding principles in House's life (and, to a lesser extent, other characters' lives, Cuddy included). I think it's so ingrained into their attitudes and outlooks on their lives that, at least for House, this isn't something he's going to overcome, despite any baby steps he might take towards hurdling it. If it ever did happen, I think it would have to take some serious, dire desperation in order for House, anyway, to do that. But, this issue has been all over this season, and I couldn't stop thinking about it (and had to talk about it a bit in my LJ, if you missed it).
Ah, conspiring Wilson and Cuddy. I love them so. =D
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:38 am (UTC)And yes, word on that too. He's *trying* to reach out to people - but human connection inevitably means more pain, which is against his natural instinct to avoid pain. But misery and loneliness is also another, more familiar kind of frame. Which one will he choose? My bet is that he will struggle with both this season.
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Date: 2008-11-13 09:43 am (UTC)Also, I think something that House uses to justify his loneliness that he's already mentioned in reference to Taub, and the artist patient in Adverse Events (and I'd like to see him struggle with it himself) is that he feels there's a kind of balance in life. If you're happy with your love life, or in a personal relationship, other parts of your life will suffer, namely how well you perform and how dedicated you are to your job. Since House puts so much stock in his ability to do the job he does (and fulfills his need to be right, and respected for his intellectual abilities), I think this would also be a struggle in terms of finding additional fulfillment elsewhere. (I think this also came up through Wilson on the rooftop in Need to Know, after House sent Stacy away. Wilson mentions something about House being worried about losing what makes him special, and what makes him special is his ability to do his job and work through puzzles that nobody else can solve.) So I hope this is addressed, too.
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Date: 2008-11-13 08:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-13 07:44 am (UTC)ZOMG you're totally right! That's my canon now too. :)
'I don't think of House that way. I never have.' And then she fidgeted with her ear-ring
When she did that, I screamed "CLASSIC TELL!" at the TV. ;)
It was a great episode!
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Date: 2008-11-13 07:47 am (UTC)When she did that, I screamed "CLASSIC TELL!" at the TV. ;)
Hee. Because of course she was thinking about him like that. Naked.
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Date: 2008-11-13 07:53 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-11-13 11:37 am (UTC)THIS META IS AMAZING!
I love the titles for each part. HEHE!
Wilson throwing House out is a continuation of his determination not to be an enabler after a certain point. THAT'S how it's supposed to work, and not by staying away from the person who means the world to him, and I'm glad Wilson has realised that.
YOU WIN FOR NOTICING THIS! I think Wilson is slowly realising how we can work around whatever issues he had with House without shutting House out of his life. The old Wilson would have just let him sleep on the couch.
Side note: How cute was House holding his jacket like that and still knocking with his cane even though the door was open and going "BZZZZ". LOL!
And hah! Classic defensive Cuddy was just too cute, I wanted to hug her! I swear she was blushing during that scene!!
And yes, it is vicarious living—there's a reason why we call these people co-dependent and why the only kind of relationship that will work for House in canon is a platonic version of the OT3.
You've got down the reason why Wilson does what he does in the last ep perfectly! Yes in a way it is vicarious living but if it's vicarious with positive effects, I say go for it! And OT3 will be the one defining relationship that will stand the test of time. No matter what hurdles or even the possibility of House/Cuddy crashing and burning come their way. It's worked brilliantly so far and the three have a genuine care and affection for each other.
GUH I LOVE THESE PEOPLE!
My quote for this ep is still Wilson's. "Never leaned so far that my tongue fell into their mouth." HEE =)
WILSON SO CUTE! *HUGGLES HUGGLES*
ps. sorry for going mental at your comments page. hahah.
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Date: 2008-11-14 09:44 am (UTC)Exactly. He's trying not to enable him as much, and that's awesome.
How cute was House holding his jacket like that and still knocking with his cane even though the door was open and going "BZZZZ". LOL!
I LOVE them in that entire scene. LOVE!
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Date: 2008-11-15 04:16 pm (UTC)So awesome and so damn cute.
heehee. Hey Cuddy, lying: ur doin it rong.
OMG, that scene was so great, no wait GREAT. The second the music started I was laughing. Cuddy's faces, her girly voice "are you saying you want to date me?", Wilson's "pardon me?". And the kiss, that was so cute and for some reason so Jewish. love love.
In Cuddy's (awesome)monologue, when she gets to the part about House being unable to open up I went: Ha! pot kettle much? Seriously, the woman does not share. For us to know something about her she has to be 1)Having or nearly having a breakdown or 2)being stalked/spied on by one of her potential love interest. Though this is changing a bit since she and Wilson are better friends now.
I think in a way they're resolved. Chase is pretty much his own man now, his trust issues are with Cameron, not House (at least not with House the person, as opposed House as a subject, but again he has to take that up with Cameron) He grew and we got cheated out of seen it happen.
Even though that was probably the best line of the episode, my biggest laugh came with LE delivery of "Oh my God, you dragged it out of me you're a genius".
I loved that Taub's wife forgave him. I don't know why I'm so invested in them.
To sum up, Cuddy continues to own me and this episode = love (although the show still isn't forgiven for "Joy")
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Date: 2008-11-17 10:44 am (UTC)Yes! I've been hearing contradictory views on this scene-some viewers saw some genuineness in Wilson's proposition, but I just *can't* take it seriously, not with the music in the background.
And word on the not-sharing. House at least goes and blabs his secrets to Wilson - or has it pried out of him by Wilson. Cuddy is eternally uptight, eternally secretive, and yes, it takes a freaking breakdown to draw things out from her. This episode is a living proof - just look at how beautifully in control she was.
I think in a way they're resolved. Chase is pretty much his own man now, his trust issues are with Cameron, not House (at least not with House the person, as opposed House as a subject, but again he has to take that up with Cameron) He grew and we got cheated out of seen it happen.
But that doesn't explain why he bristles every time he hears the name 'House'. And until the show tells me otherwise, I will believe that Chase's issues with House/Cameron have more to do with *Chase* than Cameron.
♥ Taub/Mrs. Taub.
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Date: 2008-11-20 07:44 am (UTC)Yeah, I think RSL may have missed the mark a little there. The expression on his face after Cuddy leaves is pure heartbreak. He looks like he's thinking "Wow, she really doesn't see me". Maybe we were supposed to think he looks so sad because he deeply believes that House an Cuddy are making a mistake at not giving each other a chance, but it's an odd acting choice for the general tone of the scene.
Maybe he resents the fact that, unlike Foreman and Cameron, he didn't get to leave House in his own terms (which now I want to believe was the whole point of Cameron's comment about this issue in the episode). I should be wanting more resolution with this anyway, since it will mean more than the usual two minutes Chase scene of lately (without the surgical mask as a bonus).