while Cuddy did get the other point he tried to get across ('I'm an asshole, don't expect too many things from me') Part of the thing about Cuddy, that I can see, though, is that she hasn't and can't fully get that, because of her tendency to lose perspective about what's near and dear to her and see the ideal and pure potential rather than reality. And I think that's part of the problem between them, and why House hasn't made more of an active effort to really and truly pursue her. He has been trying, but trying to get her to see all the positive and negative aspects of him, but Cuddy's having serious trouble fully recognizing either in reality, and is seeing a version of House she wishes to see.
I think all three of them are heading down a slippery, slippery slope (which, being the angst and misery whore I am), I kind of like because it's interesting. They're all hurting, and very concerned with pain--easing it, eliminating it, avoiding it--and I think, more than anything, it's their number one motivator across the board. (I'm not really arguing with you about a lot of this, mind you, more just...voicing things in a place that I feel safe, because I don't feel safe in many places in fandom lately.) But I think part of the problem we've been seeing (predominantly in Cuddy and partly in Wilson and most recently in House) is this pattern of growing desperation and self-delusion that leads to poor decisions. They're all trying to change, and I think they're all as capable of it in significant, lasting ways as House is. That is to say, not very capable. They've all been making small ones, and it's true that House is not the same person in much smaller ways than he used to be even in season one, but I think when it comes to the big issues, they're all relatively the same and despite all their efforts will remain so. I think what we've become aware of over the years are the events in characters' lives (I'm mostly interested in House, Wilson, and Cuddy here) that changed them for the rest of their lives. House's infarction. The loss of Wilson's brother Daniel. I'd say Cuddy's is more of a period than event and that is her years spent ruthlessly pursuing professional ambitions and foresaking other parts of her life. I can't quite think of any one 'event' for her. And I think while it's interesting (okay, personally terrifying because I desperately don't want them to change, so I show my bias there) to see them try to change and, even despite attaining things that they think they 'want' (Wilson regaining his brother, Cuddy getting a baby), still fail to do so. I think ultimately they're going to be forced to recognize what they can't change and accept those things, instead of try to change what they cannot. Kind of like that "serenity prayer". (Oh, wow, House would be horrified to know I just applied a prayer to their situations, and I'm not even religious.) I think they're slowly and painfully learning the difference between what they can change and what they can't.
Oh, wow, did I ramble. I'm sorry, but...yeah, I guess it's nice to be able to talk in a place where I feel okay about it.
And, I just realized that...I think House said, "I don't want to be in pain. I don't want to be miserable." Not "I don't want to be alone." I just checked. Pain/miserable.
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Date: 2009-04-03 09:31 am (UTC)I think all three of them are heading down a slippery, slippery slope (which, being the angst and misery whore I am), I kind of like because it's interesting. They're all hurting, and very concerned with pain--easing it, eliminating it, avoiding it--and I think, more than anything, it's their number one motivator across the board. (I'm not really arguing with you about a lot of this, mind you, more just...voicing things in a place that I feel safe, because I don't feel safe in many places in fandom lately.) But I think part of the problem we've been seeing (predominantly in Cuddy and partly in Wilson and most recently in House) is this pattern of growing desperation and self-delusion that leads to poor decisions. They're all trying to change, and I think they're all as capable of it in significant, lasting ways as House is. That is to say, not very capable. They've all been making small ones, and it's true that House is not the same person in much smaller ways than he used to be even in season one, but I think when it comes to the big issues, they're all relatively the same and despite all their efforts will remain so. I think what we've become aware of over the years are the events in characters' lives (I'm mostly interested in House, Wilson, and Cuddy here) that changed them for the rest of their lives. House's infarction. The loss of Wilson's brother Daniel. I'd say Cuddy's is more of a period than event and that is her years spent ruthlessly pursuing professional ambitions and foresaking other parts of her life. I can't quite think of any one 'event' for her. And I think while it's interesting (okay, personally terrifying because I desperately don't want them to change, so I show my bias there) to see them try to change and, even despite attaining things that they think they 'want' (Wilson regaining his brother, Cuddy getting a baby), still fail to do so. I think ultimately they're going to be forced to recognize what they can't change and accept those things, instead of try to change what they cannot. Kind of like that "serenity prayer". (Oh, wow, House would be horrified to know I just applied a prayer to their situations, and I'm not even religious.) I think they're slowly and painfully learning the difference between what they can change and what they can't.
Oh, wow, did I ramble. I'm sorry, but...yeah, I guess it's nice to be able to talk in a place where I feel okay about it.
And, I just realized that...I think House said, "I don't want to be in pain. I don't want to be miserable." Not "I don't want to be alone." I just checked. Pain/miserable.