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[swatkat]

I haven't seen House or HIMYM yet. Haven't had the chance. But! According to fandom sources, the name of episode 11 is 'Joy to the World.' ARE THEY GIVING HER THE BABY? PLEASE TELL ME THEY'RE GIVING HER THE BABY!

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[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Another spoiler for this episode indicates that "a miracle, a true blue spectacle" happens during this episode. A baby would actually make sense (and think of all the jokes about Jesus and Mary House could make. Hee). It would be kind of stupid of the writers to give an episode this name without thinking viewers would immediately make a connection between it and "Joy". I've rationalized a way for me to enjoy it if a baby showed up, because of what it could mean for Cuddy and House (no romance, but perhaps a confirmation of how important they are to each other, and the support they can offer, and a deepening of their friendship--just an overall improvement on their relationship). NO IDEA what's going to happen. I'm simultaneously very nervous (because, I swear, if House gives Cuddy his sperm for Christmas, I'm going to throw up my hands and declare it bad fic!) and looking forward to it.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Hmm, yes, that's why I've been thinking about the baby. I wouldn't mind a few immaculate conception jokes, and at this point I've overcome all my earlier resistance to television babies and want her to get that baby, period. But it mustn't be a product of House's magic penis - that'd just be wrong.

I don't care if it kills the 'potential romance' - because hey, they can always have a fling later! Or in fanfiction! I'm happy either way.

I'm more nervous about the next episode now. And excited. Eee!

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

I'd prefer no romance as it is--a fling, cool, but not a "romance" (as for fanfiction, that's what I love it for)-- because it would be so much more meaningful to me if they acknowledge they don't want to risk what they have, and the deeper kind of friendship they could have, and not be willing to toss that out for a chance at some regular sex, and driving each other insane by constantly being around each other (Wilson's as close to House as anyone, and look what happened when he tried to spend all his time with House, although I imagine that if they'd been having sex, it would have made it tolerable for a longer period of time. LOL). Anyway, I'm becoming less resistant to the idea of a baby for Cuddy, as long as, as you said, it's not in any way the result of House's magic penis/sperm. So, so wrong.

But, I can't wait for the next episode! It looks fantastic! I never like what Katie Jacobs has to say about the concept of the series or the characters in general, but she never seems to fail in the directing department, and I'm excited. Have you seen the first three minutes? They look awesome. =D I'm just sad that I have to wait until I get home to watch it. Stupid long work hours! Thank goodness for Tivo. It's already set to record 15 minutes extra, too, just in case I forgot! Eeee! =D

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

And I'm fairly certain the show *won't* do the loooove route. Even LE said the other day that we can't have a House in love on the show. We can always make them have as much sex as they want to in fanfiction - let's keep the pining for canon.

I worried about the next ep. V. worried. It has the potential to be AWESOME - or full of suck. I haven't seen them, but I do know what's in it and maybe it's good, but. Worried! And I have to wait ALL DAY Wednesday (Tuesday for you, Wednesday for me) before I get to go home and watch the damn thing!

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes, I agree. =)

Wait. Where do you live? Don't tell me you are another Aussie on my f-list, too. Why do I know so many? LOL

I'm not too worried. I'm so damn excited. Scene with House talking to Cuddy about the whole situation. Turning point for Thirteen. The awesomeness. I'm so ready for it. =D

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Not an Aussie, no - I live a little nearer than that, in India. The Aussies are 5 and a half hours ahead of us.

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

In India! Wow. Spiffy. =D

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

You can always come and visit me, anytime. I promise to be a good tourist guide and even find good accomodation, provided you are not resistant to the idea of staying in pathetic university hostels. Winter is a very nice time to visit, if I may say so.

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

The wording "true blue miracle" makes me think Cuddy finds out she's pregnant in this episode (the blue line on the pregnancy test)

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

I think it has something to do with a baby. The spoiler quote is practically verbatim from a Barry Manilow song, "It's a Miracle", in which the lyrics say, "It's a miracle/A true blue spectacle". The song is actually about a reunited couple, so it's possible it could hint at House and Cuddy giving a more involved relationship a go, but the title of this episode really makes me think it's about a baby instead, perhaps even Joy (the baby) in particular and Cuddy is reunited with her rather than House in a romantic way. The song could apply if looked at from that perspective, and I'm actually hoping that's the way it goes.

I could go along with Cuddy falling pregnant, though, as long as it's not by House. That would be a bit too much for me. Heh.

[doyle_sb4.livejournal.com]

Same here (much as I like House/Cuddy, it's a bit too fanficcy for him to get her magically pregnant) - I'm hoping it's referring to her getting Joy after all.

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I didn't used to like the idea of her getting a baby at all, but now I've really warmed to it, and it would be nice for her to get Joy after all that. And it could open up the doors for some interesting plotlines, too. House trying to do his job with Cuddy absent, on maternity leave for a while and not there to support his decisions like she does. See how House reacts to her actually getting a baby now. See how Cuddy herself reacts to it all, possibly seeing it's not as wonderful and idealistic as she might have wished. There's a lot that can be tackled. I'm much more for it than I used to be. Just not House's baby. I agree that it's way too much like fics, like something a less experienced writer would write as a "twist".

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Cuddy. Away from the hospital. Struggling between a baby and her *other* baby. Resisting the temptation to make only about five hundred calls to the hospital and sending five hundred other mails and driving the poor interim dean crazy. Oh, and House, being annoying AND desperate.

That makes it, by default, an awesome storyline. *g*

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly. And we might also had her other baby, House, now without a supervisor-parent who knows how to deal with him. ;)

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

But would it be an immaculate conception? Because clearly she's given up on IVF and it's unlikely she's had a sexual partner of late which makes it... miraculous?

I *hope* it's not House's baby.

[ijemanja.livejournal.com]

I WANT HER TO HAVE A BABY BUT IF IT TURNS OUT HOUSE'S MAGICAL PENIS CURES CUDDY'S INFERTILITY THERE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH WTF IN THE WORLD.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

NO MAGIC PENIS NO

Honestly, I don't think they're gonna have sex at all this season (though Ausiello has been talking about 'personally satisfactory' things happening to House and Cuddy in the Christmas episode, albeit in a House-like way), but if they do, NO REPRODUCTION NO.

Maybe she does an Angelina Jolie and adopts from abroad? Wait, I wrote that story. Hee.

[ijemanja.livejournal.com]

The weird thing is, the suggestion in the spoilers that this is a good thing that happens to both Cuddy and House. Maybe House helps arrange it so that Cuddy gets a baby? Idk, I just don't want the magic penis.

Or maybe the mother from Joy realises she really can't do it and drops the baby on Cuddy's doorstep or something? I could live with that.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Yes, I know! And then there is talk about miracles...

Oh, I don't know, I can't figure all this out, why can't they just have sex? And when they do, I want it on my screen. In details. And then maybe House wouldn't have a nervous breakdown over it and Cuddy would just lighten up, and *that* would be a miracle, it would.

Or maybe the mother from Joy realises she really can't do it and drops the baby on Cuddy's doorstep or something? I could live with that.

Elves leave it for her?

[ijemanja.livejournal.com]

Unless they know something about Lisa E that we don't, I really can't see them writing in a Cuddy pregnancy, this season or any. I'm leaning towards the elves option, I think. Happy magical holiday elves that hopefully do not live in House's pants.

They are NEVER EVER EVER going to let House do something so normal as have sex with someone he likes and cares about without then having an epic freak-out over it. They are also never going to let Cuddy have sex, period. (Now if the show could just prove me wrong, that would be nice.)

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

I can't see the pregnancy happening, either. And elves are much more fun, anyway.


They are NEVER EVER EVER going to let House do something so normal as have sex with someone he likes and cares about without then having an epic freak-out over it. They are also never going to let Cuddy have sex, period.

There you go, ruining my fun fling fantasy. Sigh.

This is why we have fanfic.

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Did you? I really need to read all your stories. Why have I not done this? *hangs head shamefully*

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Allow me to be helpful and point you (http://swatkat24.livejournal.com/127029.html') to that story. *g*

[shutterbug-12.livejournal.com]

Why, thank you! I need good fics for rainy days when I'm not busy, which...sadly won't be all that soon, but I have one day off a week. Heh.

Gah! Wait, the link seems to be broken. Boo.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Oops. Here. (http://swatkat24.livejournal.com/127029.html)

[roga.livejournal.com]

It will be a Channukah Miracle!

(And you may think I'm playing off 'Christmas miracle', but no, Channkah miracle is actually is a term by itself.)

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Please let it be so!

And now you have to tell me more: what event does the Channukah Miracle refer to?

[roga.livejournal.com]

Thank LJ for tags, because I suddenly remembered I'd written this in a post once! Trying to be witty, too, so ignore the lame humor. Here it is, copy/pasted:

The Hanukkah Miracle Story in a Nutshell (And Footnotes):

It started with a tyrant, as these things* are wont to do. Antiochus IV is the villain who outlawed Judaism, punished and killed those who practiced, looted the Temple and defiled it and decided to redecorate with statues of Hercules and Iolaus and possibly Xena which, although no doubt aesthetically pleasing, was nonetheless a big no-no.

This is at a time when the Jews are but a small minority against the vast (but falling) Greek empire(s?), but that doesn’t scare Matityahu (who is somewhat of a religious fanatic, but I try not to let my sober, adult POV destroy the heroic innocence of this story) and his five sons, one of whom is Judah the Maccabee. These guys lead a rebellion against the Greeks**, and lo and behold, they actually win.*** The small and weak over the strong and able. These kind of stories exist to be screenwritten.

So yay, we have the Temple back, but it is full of gorgeous but heretical Greek art and pigs rolling around the hallways, or at least that’s how I pictured it as a kid. In short, it must be cleansed. And one of the requirements for cleansing are pure olive oil to light the Menorah****. But the Greeks, much like T-Rex in panel 3 of Dino Comics, had stomped all over the oil vessels and crushed them all. All except one, which had just enough oil to last a day, which sucked, because it took eight days to prepare and deliver new pure oil to the Temple.

Sad and forlorn, the Maccabees lit the Menorah with the oil they had from that one little vial, and miracle of miracles! It lasted eight days! Huzzah, huzzah. (Or, I should say: heydad, heydad.) Miracle, celebration, rejoice, the end.

*ie, Jewish persecutions that end up as holidays.
** The Greeks, and also, maybe even mostly, Jews who chose to assimilate completely into Hellenistic culture.
***Their victory lasts for a whole +- 200 years, which is when the new Jewish kingdom (the Hasmonaen Kingdom) is conquered by Rome.
****Two notes about the Menorah: 1. It was looted when the Second Temple was destroyed in 70 CE. If you’re ever in Rome, check out the Arch of Titus for a carved image depicting the sacking of Jerusalem including the Menorah, which is the last known location of the Menorah. 2. In Israel, we use the word Menorah to refer to the seven branched lamp that stood in the Temple, and the word Chanukiah to refer to the nine branched lamp lit in Hanukkah. In America, the nine branched lamp of Hanukkah is also called a Menorah, which confused me for years until I finally figured it out.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Hee. It's not lame humour, it's fun humour, and educational too! Thank you for this. *g*

Jewish persecutions that end up as holidays

Yes, that always ends up happening somehow.

[jaybee65.livejournal.com]

That name couldn't possibly be a coincidence. No WAY. I'd put money on there being something baby-related, although maybe with a twist we wouldn't expect?

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, TOO! Furthermore, Ausiello has been saying things about 'miracles' and 'personal satisfaction' in the same Christmas episode, which points to... baby?

I'm happy with the idea, as long as there is no magic penis involved. I vote for an immaculate conception. Or elves.

[jaybee65.livejournal.com]

ELVES! I vote for elves!