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Today's [livejournal.com profile] metafandom is full of discussions on March- whether or not it is fanfic, and why; whether it is somehow 'better' than what we understand as fanfic; what makes it 'better', if we assume it to be so, etc etc. My first instinct, of course, is to call March fanfic. And while I shouldn't comment on something I haven't actually read, I don't think it's even particularly interesting fanfic. Because in re-telling Mr. March's story, Brooke is telling us the story of an ordinary, sensitive man in times of war (who also happens to be Mr. March, the father of Jo March) – and how many times have we heard that story again? Little Women OTOH is about those left behind, about the *women* left behind, and that, to me, is a more interesting story than the same old Man vs. War story.

This is not to say I'm *against* re-telling stories. No, of course not. Would I be in fandom if I were? It's just that unless Brooke has managed to give us some new and interesting perspective on the old Man vs. War story, or on the Little Women universe (which I love dearly. someday I shall write a post on how this book changed my life. no, really – it did.) in her fic, I don't really care much about it.

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And because I'm slightly (*cough*) obsessed with Wicked these days, I naturally started thinking whether you could call Wicked fanfiction. And I was quite astonished by my own answer to the question – I actually hesitated to call it fanfic, though it very clearly is a derivative work (a brilliant AU, if you like). Or 'just' fanfic. Which has a horribly derogatory ring to it, and that is so not what I meant to say. I think what I wanted to say is that fanfic – or to be more specific, shipfic, with its hyperfocus on romance and sex - often does not consider any other issue than romance (not that there's anything wrong with it), which maybe alright for the *fans* of that particular universe, but probably not so for everyone else. Does that at all make sense? *is hopelessly muddled*

P.S - GIP. Okay, so this is not a scene from the book. But Glinda sobbing over Elphaba's hat? There is no bad there. *sigh*

Date: 2006-04-28 06:41 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com
Really? I haven't read LOTR since junior high, but I didn't even remember Arwen being *in* the books. I guess that's how much of an impression she made on me! LOL.

She isn't. Much. A couple of times in FOTR, and then Aragorn marries her in ROTK. Their love story is in the appendix - which I'm very fond of, by the way. *g*

Date: 2006-04-28 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nell65.livejournal.com
No, she isn't around much in the text - and the obstacles to their relationship aren't their personalities, but rather external problems. You know, the ruling ring, the embodiement of evil, the passing of Middle earth - stuff like that!

But - as a motivation for Aragorn - she's omnipresent, especially after you've read the appendices and then forever after as you re-read the story itself. Really, from at least one perfectly legitimate POV - how much more 'romantic' and 'romance' filled can you get?

Date: 2006-04-28 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] swatkat24.livejournal.com
Really, from at least one perfectly legitimate POV - how much more 'romantic' and 'romance' filled can you get?

But the romance is not the entire story, is it? It's also about Aragorn reclaiming what is his, restoring Gondor to its former glory, defeating the forces of evil that threaten to destroy their world. Arwen is only *one* of the motivations (albeit a very important one). And LOTR is not just Aragorn's story - only a part of it is.

Date: 2006-04-28 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nell65.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't think LOTR is a romance, for all the reasons you mention and more. But I have seen people dismiss it by tarring it as one; and if they aren't right - they aren't entirely wrong either.

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