once and future

[swatkat]

1. BSG is coming back! Okay, so 4.0 was choppy and occasionally bizarre, too much plot (not enough good plot), too much Baltar's Sex Cult (not enough good Baltar interactions with other awesome characters, like 'The Hub'), a lot of insanity and not enough answers... BUT. My show is coming baaaack!

2. I only have very brief thoughts on the webisodes:
a. Gaeta is bi. This is news, because I thought he was gay.

b. But Baltar/Gaeta is now canon, right?

c. More Eight. A Eight plot is brewing, I'm telling you. It's gonna be BIG.

d. Saul Tigh in charge of CIC! Does that mean Bill and Tigh have made up? I WANT TO KNOW! OMG.

e. Gaeta is probably gonna die.

f. Gaeta is not the Final Cylon. Ellen Tigh? Zak Adama? Kendra Shaw?


3. And okay. Fine. So I saw the first episode of Merlin. It's... very Harry Potter meets King Arthur, with added cheesy SFX and dragon.

But seriously, flist, if you wanted me to see the show, all you had to do was tell me about Gwen and Morgana. And maybe posted a couple of Uther Pendragon picspams (ASH = ♥♥♥).

4. Rewatching House 4.11 with A. last night, the baby plotline doesn't get any more believable on rewatch. What, she just walked out of class and gave birth and came right back afterwards, and no one noticed? 'Excuse me, ma'am, but I have to go give premature birth to miracle baby Jesus now'. Yes, Christmas miracle etc., but the writers were on some special crack with that (BUT THEY GAVE CUDDY HER BABY SO THAT'S ALRIGHT. SHUT UP, FANDOM).

Comments

[lieueitak.livejournal.com]

she just walked out of class and gave birth and came right back afterwards, and no one noticed? Well... it doeshappen. The girl was overweight to begin with, so and if she only gained a little bit of weight or was one of those women who just don't show very much, it might not be noticeable. Also, wasn't the girl 14? While it's definitely possible for a 14 year old to be pregnant, if you believe that she's an outcast whose favorite activity is school, it's less likely that you're going to believe said 14 year old is pregnant. There's tons to be said for denial. Considering that there's a good chunk of women who don't even know they're pregnant until they're in labor, I would say that's not the unbelievable part of the episode to me.

The fact that the baby ends up alive is more suspicious. But I suppose it's not completely out of the realm of possibilities.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

The show has had 12 year olds pregnant in the past, so it's not the age that's unbelievable.

Considering that there's a good chunk of women who don't even know they're pregnant until they're in labor

Oh, wow, seriously? But this girl knew. And maybe she hid everything very well and all, but what about afterwards? It's just stretching it A LOT for me to believe it.

The fact that the baby ends up alive is more suspicious.

Yes. MIRACLE! *facepalm*

(Still, they gave her the baby.)

[lieueitak.livejournal.com]

Oh, wow, seriously? Yeah. One cable channel actually ran a show entitled, "I was pregnant, and I didn't know it." It actually interviewed six or seven women who hadn't known they were pregnant until it was like "here comes the head" - or later in one case, where the woman pregnant with twins didn't realize she was pregnant until she delivered one. And in that same case, the most horrific part was that, when she went to the hospital, none of the doctors knew what was wrong until she had given birth to the first child. So... really, if it's possible for doctors to miss a woman pregnant with twins in labor, lol, this doesn't seem too unbelievable by comparison.

but what about afterwards? Well... if you think about it, women give birth without complications all of the time. She might have been tired, but that could have been past off as the flu or something. There might have been bleeding, but she's a 14 year old girl; bleeding isn't exactly cause for concern.

Yes. MIRACLE! *facepalm* So I was just thinking... maybe she was lying? I suppose it's possible that she fudged the date that she got pregnant to cover up the fact that she was drinking while pregnant, so perhaps the baby wasn't premature/that premature. Or maybe she was lying when she said that the baby wasn't breathing. It's one thing to leave a dead baby, another to leave one alive, and maybe she didn't want Cuddy or her parents to look at her differently for leaving a healthy, live child for death. And, again, I suppose denial is possible; she didn't want the child to be alive, so she misinterpreted a quiet baby for a dead one or something. I don't know; it would have been nice to see these issues fleshed out more.

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

So... really, if it's possible for doctors to miss a woman pregnant with twins in labor, lol, this doesn't seem too unbelievable by comparison.

I'm a little bit speechless right now. How can you not know????!!!!

She might have been tired, but that could have been past off as the flu or something. There might have been bleeding, but she's a 14 year old girl; bleeding isn't exactly cause for concern.

The girl was smart as well, so it's possible she made up a good story. The same with the child - she may have been in denial, she may have been guilty *not* because she left behind a dead child but a *living* child. Or maybe the child was quiet, but not dead (this part I believe, because apparently *I* was born quiet and the doctors made me cry). It's still very convenient, though - lazy writing that takes fanwanking and fans' desire to believe in the CHRISTMAS MIRACLE! for granted.

[lieueitak.livejournal.com]

I'm a little bit speechless right now. How can you not know????!!!! LOL, I KNOW. One of the common themes for the show was that a lot of the women had been told they were infertile, in a couple of cases because of their obesity. Still, you really do have to wonder WTF is wrong with people and DOCTORS to not realize that somebody is in labor.

I don't know if I'd qualify this particular episode as a victim of lazy writing as much as I think there was just too much going on. There was the Huddy tension, Cuddy relating to the patient, Cuddy wanting a baby, the fact that the teenage boy had been the girl's secret lover, Foreman wanking about how he was turning into House, Foreteen, Thirteen and things related to the drug trial, the House/Wilson bet about kindness, the idiot patient in the clinic, and Kutner dealing with his own bullying issues. Had the Huddy stuff been put on hold or the storylines branching from Thirteen been pared down/saved for an episode where the material might have been more relevant, for instance, we might have had more time to bond/understand the patient and what exactly was going on. So I guess the issue to my mind is lazy editing, :-P

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

I agree on the lazy editing. This is also, I think, a case of the show struggling to do justice to its ensemble cast and holding on to its original House-centric storylines. This episode is a classic example of all that. If they're going to be an ensemble, they're going to have be brave and rotate the cast instead of sticking everyone together in the same episode. They've succeeded in some episodes this season - not so much in the rest.

[vitawash24.livejournal.com]

Was she actually at school when it happened? I thought she was at her volunteer gig or something and that's why the abandoned house was in the neighborhood.

Um, not that I'm actually willing to rewatch it to find out. *shifty eyes*

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

I thought she was at her volunteer gig or something and that's why the abandoned house was in the neighborhood.

She probably was, which is why I guess the writers thought it'd be believable. But it isn't. I'm willing to rewatch the first half of the ep, and skip straight ahead to the end with Cuddy and the baby, because, aww.

[thedeadparrot.livejournal.com]

Wheee, Merlin! It's a ridiculous, cheesy show, but the fic potential is so limitless, and I don't just mean on the Merlin/Arthur front. Gwen and Morgana are properly slashy, which is probably hinted at in the first ep, but not as much as it is later on, and they are quite adorable and awesome.

ASH kicks everyone's ass, too, though I totally have a pathetic soft spot for Arthur (who gets better. Much better. I swear.)

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

It's very cheesy. As of now, Arthur is very Draco Malfoy. I watched the episode and thought, wow, no wonder the H/D slashers are having fun with it!

Gwen and Morgana are properly slashy, which is probably hinted at in the first ep, but not as much as it is later on, and they are quite adorable and awesome.

I approve of this. (And, um, is it wrong that I saw Uther/Morgana in that brief little scene? IT'S ASH'S FAULT! HE HAS RIDICULOUS CHEMISTRY WITH YOUNGER CO-STARS!)

[thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com]

But seriously, flist, if you wanted me to see the show, all you had to do was tell me about Gwen and Morgana. And maybe posted a couple of Uther Pendragon picspams (ASH = ♥♥♥).

Heh. I didn't really other people were precisely as easy as I was.

And, um, is it wrong that I saw Uther/Morgana in that brief little scene?</>i

No, it's definitely there! Half the time they are father/daughter-ish, but the other half of the time they are so very married. They're my favourite het ship on the show, even though Gwen/Arthur should be, what with Arthur being awesome + Gwen being hot like woah + Gwen/Arthur being future canon.

IT'S ASH'S FAULT! HE HAS RIDICULOUS CHEMISTRY WITH YOUNGER CO-STARS!

Yeah, what's up with that? Not that I'm complaining...

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Heh. I didn't really other people were precisely as easy as I was.

I am! The flist has been going on and on about the slash, which is there, of course, but that's not MY magic word, lol! (And it never occured to anyone to mention the girlslash.)

Half the time they are father/daughter-ish, but the other half of the time they are so very married. They're my favourite het ship on the show, even though Gwen/Arthur should be, what with Arthur being awesome + Gwen being hot like woah + Gwen/Arthur being future canon.

So I have things to look forward to! So far, Gwen is kinda awesome and Arthur is a prick, but I guess I have give them some more time.

Yeah, what's up with that? Not that I'm complaining...

I *still* feel vaguely guilty about my very secret love for Buffy/Giles.

[thirdblindmouse.livejournal.com]

I am! The flist has been going on and on about the slash, which is there, of course, but that's not MY magic word, lol! (And it never occured to anyone to mention the girlslash.)

That's nearly exactly what happened with me. I wasn't paying attention at all, and then one post mentioned Merlin having both ASH and girlslash potential. Mind you, I'm generally all for boyslash, but first a show has to get me interested enough to watch, and the promise of random boys just doesn't do it.

I *still* feel vaguely guilty about my very secret love for Buffy/Giles.

*glare* As you should. Giles/Anya is the One True Giles Pairing!

[hihoplastic.livejournal.com]

I'm not really sure why, but I've noticed that almost every Cuddy!inspired episode has a really, really bad medical and /or other plotline. Humpty Dumpty was so stereotypical and (in my opinion, a little offensive) - the "mexican dude who helps out with cockfights"? Seriously? And then Who's Your Daddy, I... really didn't enjoy that plotline. At all. Crandle was awesome, but other than that I just thought it was a little... stupid. Forever wasn't bad, and I refuse to say anything bad about Joy. Just on principle. And then Joy to the World and it's rather crackedout MIRACLE!. (But we forgive that one, 'cause CUDDY BABY).

But yeah. It's almost like the writers devote so much time to making sure they embarrass Cuddy/get her character right that they forget they're writing medicine, too. I'd like to ask them what the deal is.

[jaybee65.livejournal.com]

Should I watch the BSG webisodes? I don't usually bother with that sort of thing, but if you think they're important to what happens in the final season....

[swatkat24.livejournal.com]

Yes, you should! Because they feature Gaeta, and you like Gaeta. And there's a little bit of development in the final webisode that promises some drama to come. *g*